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    • New Old Dialogues
    New Old Dialogues

    Kernel emphasises honest, open, and sincere conversation between peers. It is only through ongoing, care-full dialogue with a great diversity of people that we can nurture the kind of ecosystem which might be described as a "better web". Whatever your own goals, know that there is nothing more valuable in this world than True Voice.

    The gunfire around us makes it hard to hear. But the human voice is different from other sounds. It can be heard over noises that bury everything else. Even when it's not shouting. Even when it's just a whisper. Even the lowest whisper can be heard over armies... when it's telling the truth.

    It's time to give value back to each voice.


    We must converse in a manner that both engenders a force of healing and reflects the cultural currency of relationality and reciprocity. - Indigenous Protocol

    It can be difficult for technologists to understand what constitutes real conversation and why it is so critical in any human endeavour. However, we are privileged to have representatives from the Two Row Wampum Working Group and the historical Longhouse Council of the Five Nations Confederacy participating with us, and below you can find a summary of some of the resources they have made available. We do not need to reinvent the wheel - we only need to rediscover our shared roots. In truth, there is only one human family.

    The transformative power of indigenous dialogue resides largely in the protocols for reaching consensus between human beings which have been passed down and stress-tested over countless generations, in constantly changing contexts. These protocols secure coherent and sustainable notions of community, while allowing for the creation of new bottom up structures to respond to the particular needs of any given time. The protocols we are interested in are matrilineal: they have been protected by our mothers for over two and a half thousand years in the undying hope that they will continue to provide fertile ground for growing a lasting peace within and between all people. Not having to start from scratch when creating sustainable and autonomous structures is a huge advantage we shouldn’t take for granted.

    What is required now, more than ever, is the expression and lived realisation of beautiful social resilience in diversity. That said, we also humbly acknowledge that we can never fully express our gratitude to the women of the Longhouse in Kahnawake, who have kept these peace protocols alive for us to learn from today.

    The Five Nations Longhouse Confederacy and the Two Row Wampum Peace Treaty present a fascinating means of interrogating the concept of nationhood. The Longhouse flag can be flown on all seas, as it represents an indigenous American sovereign nation.

    In order to understand more deeply the revolutionary implications of this kind of nationhood, combined with shared, ownerless, global ledgers, we must start with a new theory of value, rooted in accurate anthropology. Enter David Graeber:

    It would also help explain the extraordinary importance of indigenous people’s struggles in the new movement: such people tend to be simultaneously the very least alienated and most oppressed people on earth. Now that new communication technologies have made it possible to include them in global revolutionary alliances, as well as local resistance and revolt, it is well-nigh inevitable that they should play a profoundly inspirational role."


    First, as my mother taught me, the Mohawk man — or any man — is supposed to stand when facing women, or anyone else, when he speaks. He is not supposed to sit; otherwise people cannot decode his body language. If this man sits, he could lie. What my mother also taught me about Kaianerahse’rakó:wa, the Great Law of Peace and Understanding, is that I always have to identify myself. I am Katsitenserio, which means “Pretty bird”. This is the name that my mother gave me. I also identify my mother by her name: Kahawenontie, which means “She carries the grapes."

    When she was alive, she carried the sacred title of Female Chief into the Kaianerahse’rakó:wa in the Longhouse. My mother taught me that every man, before getting up and talking, must remember where he comes from. So I begin by thanking the first being of all Creation: Ieronhiakaiehronon, the Sky Woman. I thank her, but I do not settle for simply thanking her, I ask her to watch what I say, because when I speak, I stand before her. I ask her to listen to my words. I also ask her to help me and guide me, so that my words are not lies, but are the truth.

    I also thank the beating heart of our Mother Earth: our Grandmother Moon, whom we all know, especially women, since the Moon visits them thirteen times a year and unites women with Mother Earth and Grandmother Moon — all forming one. Grandmother Moon moves the blood of life, not only in our bodies, but also in the body of our Mother Earth. Grandmother Moon is the beating heart of Mother Earth, the same way that we have a heart that beats in our own bodies. The function of our physical heart is exactly the same as the heart of Mother Earth. I thank our Mother Earth, because she is mother of us all; she is the mother of all that exists. We all come from the Earth, so we have to thank her.

    And as I did for Sky Woman, whom I ask to guide my words, I also ask Grandmother Moon and Mother Earth to be with me and to watch my words. Thus, no bad word, or lie can be expressed. Now, I thank all women, from the newborn baby girl to the eldest grandmother, since they are all mothers of our nations. If you carry a little girl in your womb right now, she has perhaps not yet arrived in this world and perhaps she has not given birth, but she is a woman, which makes her the mother of our nation. She must therefore be treated with great respect.

    Whether they come from the other side of the world, are white, black or yellow: all women are our mothers — even the youngest girls are our mothers and should be treated as such. We thank all life-givers, in all strains of life, as they are our purpose and direction in this world. The true managers of our societies. We ask our ancestors of the Good Mind to help us restore them to their rightful seats of power.

    I thank all our ancestors who came before us and who carry the Good Mind. This does not exclude the fact that we all have ancestors who were stupid, who did bad things in this world, but we do not condemn them. In evolution, we reject what is bad and we build upon only what is good. So when we speak and we evolve, we identify what is bad and we know that we have nothing to do with it. We therefore ask our ancestors who bear wisdom to help us return to Atonhetsera, Spirit/ True Power, and the real power of women: not the power that you want as women, but the real one. There are men who covet the power, but it is not the real power of man. Some men are wrong. Some women also may go astray from the right path, even though they give life.

    We therefore ask our ancestors to help us bring the real power of Atonhetsera, the Tekenitehio hate, the Two Row Wampum, and the True Spirit of Asen nikatarake from the three Universal Clans: Turtle, Wolf and Bear, which are those of the Kanienke’ha’ka, the People of the Flint.

    Words of Peace in Native Land: Mohawk culture, values and traditions by Katsitenserio (Stuart jr Myiow), Wolf Clan Speaker/Representative & Guylaine Cliche.


    Of course, the best way to understand any protocol is to experience it by talking with us. However, we provide here a brief overview of some key words to begin painting the picture.


    Is more a position of responsibility rather than power, as most modern people imagine that word. If someone wants to be chief, they are likely ill-suited for the role. The original word actually translates more accurately to "the best of us", and this is a position which can be occupied by men or women. However, it is always chosen by women title-holders and requires 100% consensus. These same women have the power to "dehorn" the chief at any stage if they feel that there is any possibility of corruption entering the office.

    Hereditary structure

    Is always based on your clan, not necessarily your immediate blood or family. Parents cannot pass down titles to their children, as in a monarchy. While Katsitenserio is a legal title-holder today, as his mother has a clan, he also states the emergency ceremony embedded into native protocols to make it legal and official under Five Nation's constitutional law: Kaianerahse’rakó:wa, The Great Law of Peace. This is a rare protocol, reduced to the smallest possible surface area for attack, made for dire circumstances: that is, to prevent complete genocide. Nations can be rebuilt even if only a single individual remains with knowledge of the protocols. This would otherwise always be illegal, as Katsitenserio's mother was Wolf Clan Mother, "the best of us" in the Longhouse.

    Ancestral Lines

    Introductions are made, before any discussion is started, on the basis of your hereditary clan: it is how we meet the deeper aspects of our humanity in one another. By consciously tracing and communicating the lines which lead to us, here and now, we can protect against nepotism and ensure those who represent us are truly the best of any clan, which act as containers for certain responsibilities and ways of knowing or being in our shared world. Your clan is passed down through your mother.

    These imagined/imagining lines link not only speaker and listeners, bodies and lands, individuals and community, but dream and waking life too, as illustrated beautifully in this research paper by Renata Morais.

    Amerindian Indigenous societies consider dreams to be atemporal thresholds that mediate inner and external realities without any kind of ontological difference between the two [...] The past and the future collapse into the present of the dream, allowing the dreamer to time travel across collective images that are multitemporal and interdependent, echoing the Indigenous conception of dreams as doors to the spirit world.


    To jail or imprison a human being in Longhouse oral documentation has always been illegal. It follows that anything even closely resembling chattel-style slavery - including modern wage slavery - is unjust. Indigenous cultures across the world speak of "bringing into the heart fire" any person who has done wrong. This is consistent with other matrilineal justice mechanisms in Africa, such as those mentioned by the polymath Cheikh Anta Diop. Diop describes precolonial West African nations having intricate protocols for bringing local/regional rule benders into the family for a determined period of time — after which it was then illegal to disparage the person by mentioning the crime or that time of the person’s life. This last nuance actually points to elaborate cultural protections against free labor across social strata.


    Is best exemplified by the Māori word kaitiaki, which was greatly misinterpreted in the Treaty of Waitangi. It does not mean ownership or the ability to rule as the British claimed, but a kind of conscious stewardship, a being with the land and sea and sky. It is an expression of interdependence which still calls for specific roles to be fulfilled by those most able to do so. Other indigenous people capture this same idea in the notion of The Children's Fire.

    Minding the peace

    The League of Peace formed 2,500 years ago as a response to the social climate in Eastern Seaboard of North America. Starting after Wampum shells began to be commodified as result of the outbreak of war between the Five Nations (East → West: Mohawk, Oneida, Onadoga, Cayuga, Seneca). War meant it simply wasn’t safe to collect these shells from the lakes. In the tradition, war is the result of - and perpetuates - a corrupted mind which is content to have others work for it via control and commodification of first the wampum shells, then everything else. This mind was successfully transformed by the matrilineal council that protected long term peace, right up until total colonization.

    Violent commodification

    Oral testimony stands witness to the intricate relationship between violence and commodification. This suggests that collective decision making processes for peaceful diplomacy, protected by matrilineal heritage, ought to be embedded into any long-term sustainable system. Without this protection, everything is at risk of commodification. Violence creates artificial scarcity that bleeds into every aspect of our socio-ecological-economic organization. Without matriineal protections, commodification is in turn enhanced by the means with which we track the morphology of long-term value dynamics. What is ultimately supposed to be a tool for tracking the collective health of our mother's body (Earth) becomes a tool for her brutalization instead.


    "Balance always has to come from where there is more" — Katsitenserio

    Which makes quantifying the value of goods less relevant than the mechanism by which we keep record. Indigenous modes of tracking transactions are less about valuation and more about ensuring balance is maintained within complex communities. If the means of valuation are static, they will be gamed by those who can exercise greater coercive power; and organising around regenerative abundance is replaced by organisations premised on scarcity. Without dynamic consensus protocols for arriving at value, our entire regenerative heritage is made invisible and then easily exploited, from the smallest levels to the largest levels of Sky Woman's spiral design. This is identified in the oral documentation very clearly.


    Dialogue is a way of observing, collectively, how hidden values and intentions can control our behavior, and how unnoticed cultural differences can clash without our realizing what is occurring. It can therefore be seen as an arena in which collective learning takes place and out of which a sense of increased harmony, fellowship and creativity can arise.

    Dialogue can be considered as a free flow of meaning between people in communication, in the sense of a stream that flows between banks.

    Establishing the shared patterns of a peaceful mind is a critical aspect of Kernel. Though we cannot easily quantify it, indigenous protocols for honest, clear, and open dialogue are about restoring our social consciousness, which is the only way to bring about reliable peace between the diverse branches of the human family. This is not a new idea, and is hinted at across the syllabus. David Bohm (a English theoretical physicist) and Jiddu Krishnamurti (an Indian sage) also understood the importance of honest dialogue between diverse participants. The stakes are nothing less than the reconstitution of a common coherent consciousness, which is the only kind of mind capable of using a shared, ownerless, global state and history for the benefit of all who participate therein.

    The spirit of dialogue is, in short, the ability to hold many points of view in suspension, along with a primary interest in the creation of a common meaning.

    With this common coherent consciousness we have a new kind of intelligence capable of thinking together.

    We must have dialogues, we must share our thoughts. We must be able to think together. If we can’t think together and talk together, then we can do nothing together. Culture implies shared meaning in which everybody participates.

    Designing Conversations

    The modern thread that retrieves many of the notions above in a language and framework which many technologists may find more accessible is second-order cybernetics and it's natural implication: which ic nothing other than conversation; than design as a political process of rhetoric.

    Designers create possibilities for others to have conversations, to learn, and to act.

    This simple idea reflects a recursively playful pattern you will find repeated throughout the syllabus, from designing wholesome games, to using adaptive, interacting incentive agents whose purpose is to create games that incentivise others to act in prosocial ways, to how open data might make of any time we share a more friendly and pleasing gift to those we choose consciously to share it with. Importantly, though all of these examples point at strange loops that can lead us ever deeper into playful conversations, we must remember that it is incumbent upon us as second-order cybernetic designers to place humility and response-ability at the very heart of our shared practice so that we might remain ever vigilant and aware:

    "The signage system is never completely finished, never completely specified, never completely imagined. It is forever open. Second-order design is born."

    "Whether designing interactive environments as computational extensions of human agency or new social discourses for governing social change, the goal of second-order design is to facilitate the emergence of conditions in which others can design—and thus to increase the number of choices open to all."